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    <p>Moi</p>
    <p>Piti jo aiemmin tuohon rantareittiin kommentoida. Sehän
      pikkuhiljaa etenee, ja mukava reitti siitä tuleekin.</p>
    <p>Samoja kohtia, missä tuleva pohjoinen ratareitti tulee
      sijaitsemaan, on päässyt jo vuosien ajan pyörällä liikkumaan.
      Keskusta – Tuira – Toppilansalmi – Taskila – Rajahauta –
      Länsi-Patela – Pateniemenranta – Piimäperä reitin voi kuivaan
      aikaa fillaroida pyöräteitä, polkuja ja pikkuteitä pitkin hyville
      lintupaikoille. Kelloon asti kulkeakseen joutuu Kalimenojan yli
      toistaiseksi kiertämään Kellon keskustan suunnalta. Rantaretitiin
      tullee Kalimenojan ylitys johonkin Raamattuopistontien kohdille. <br>
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    <p> Tosin on tuolla reitillä monessa kohtaa mm. rakentamisen myötä
      luonto joutunut väistymään. Mm. Toppilansalmen seutu on nykyään
      varsin tylsää seutua.  <br>
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    <p>Merikaupunkikyselyyn PPLY ja SLL Oulu antoivat palautetta. Näissä
      mm. lintutorniverkoston päivittämistä esitettiin. Kyllä
      kaupungilla pitäsi varaa muutamaan lintutorniin olle, kun
      miljoonia syydetään ties mihin.  <br>
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    <p>T. Juha <br>
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    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.pply.fi/suojelu-ja-tutkimus/pplyn-lausuntoja-mielipiteita-valituksia-ja-muita-kannanottoja/">http://www.pply.fi/suojelu-ja-tutkimus/pplyn-lausuntoja-mielipiteita-valituksia-ja-muita-kannanottoja/</a><br>
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    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.sll.fi/oulu/2021/03/07/merikaupunki-oulu/">https://www.sll.fi/oulu/2021/03/07/merikaupunki-oulu/</a><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">jarkko mykkänen kirjoitti 20.3.2021 klo
      13.40:<br>
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      <div class="">Tornia ei tänne meri-toppilaan niin kipeästi ensinnä
        tarvita.Toki on hyvä paikka havaita vuorihemppoja, mutta sekin
        paikka on nyt ehditty tuhota vuodeksi. Jospa kiurut vielä
        hyväksyy myllätyn kukkulan. Tärkeänpi pysyvä paikka tornille ois
        Oulunlahden uimarannan tuntuman torni. Ja seuraavana hankkeena
        perukan torni apaut kalimenojan eteläpuolelle rantamaastoon.
        Voin paikat perustella toisessa viestissä. Koska myös haluan
        osallistua tornien rahoitukseen, niin kelpaisiko 1000e lahjoitus
        edes alkusanoiksi ? Sen verran voin osallistua kustannuksiin kun
        rahastahan tässä kaupungissa on kaikki hyvät teot vajetta.  Onko
        muita lahjoittajia linjoilla tai miten näkisitte tornien paikat
        ? Voisiko joku muu ratkaisu palvella harrastusta ? Olisiko
        pyöräiltävä rantareitti tärkeä ? </div>
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      <div class="">-jarkko</div>
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          <div class="">Jarkko Mykkänen &lt;<a
              href="mailto:arkkitehti@icloud.com" class=""
              moz-do-not-send="true">arkkitehti@icloud.com</a>&gt;
            kirjoitti 2.5.2020 kello 19.09:</div>
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              !important;" class="">Jos ryhmä ihmisiä haluaa
              harrastuspaika, se saattaa järjestyä.  Miten se frisbee
              ratakin järjestyi. Nyt ois kyse lintutornista joka vie
              noin aarin alan.</span>
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                  <div class="">Annamari Markkola &lt;<a
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                      moz-do-not-send="true">annamari.markkola@oulu.fi</a>&gt;
                    kirjoitti 2.5.2020 kello 11.42:</div>
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                        tornin rakentamista Meri-Toppilaan voi hyvin
                        perustella alueen viimeaikaisella valtavalla
                        asuntorakentamisella. Kaupungin tehtävänä on
                        tarjota asukaille palveluita ja lintutorni olisi
                        hyvä päiväkävelykohde - ja luontoharrastus on
                        viime vuosina kovasti vielä yleistynyt. Parasta
                        olisi saada myös joitain Meri-Toppilan asukkaita
                        mukaan vaatimaan tornia. Ei tosiaan voi olla
                        rahasta kiinni tornin rakentaminen kun katsoo
                        miten  paljon rahaa on pistetty siihen,e ttä se
                        koko ranta on myllätty, vedetty puuttomaksi ja
                        nurmetettu, muutama pikkutaimi istutettu sinne
                        tänne.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                            href="mailto:pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi"
                            class="" moz-do-not-send="true">pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi</a><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>&lt;<a
                            href="mailto:pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi"
                            class="" moz-do-not-send="true">pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi</a>&gt;
                          käyttäjän Ari Rajasärkkä &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:ari.rajasarkka@hotmail.com"
                            class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ari.rajasarkka@hotmail.com</a>&gt;
                          puolesta<br class="">
                          <b class="">Lähetetty:</b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>lauantai
                          2. toukokuuta 2020 10.44<br class="">
                          <b class="">Vastaanottaja:</b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>pply
                          &lt;<a href="mailto:pply@lists.oulu.fi"
                            class="" moz-do-not-send="true">pply@lists.oulu.fi</a>&gt;<br
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                          <b class="">Aihe:</b><span
                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Pply]
                          Meri-Toppilaan lintutorni?</font>
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                          samat viranhaltijat taitavat olla vastuussa
                          esim. Sanginjoen Ulkometsän metsätalousosan
                          "hoito"- ja käyttösuunitelmasta, jonka mukaan
                          liiat luontoarvot tullaan "hoitamaan" pois
                          seuraavan 10 vuoden aikana.</div>
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                        <div class="" style="font-family: Calibri,
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                          saduissa oli hyviä haltijoita ja pahoja
                          haltijoita. Viranhaltijat niistä puuttuivat.</div>
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                          Ari</div>
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                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                href="mailto:pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi"
                                class="" moz-do-not-send="true">pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi</a><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>&lt;<a
                                href="mailto:pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi"
                                class="" moz-do-not-send="true">pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi</a>&gt;
                              käyttäjän Esa Aalto &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:esaalto@hotmail.com"
                                class="" moz-do-not-send="true">esaalto@hotmail.com</a>&gt;
                              puolesta<br class="">
                              <b class="">Lähetetty:</b><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>lauantai
                              2. toukokuuta 2020 10.20<br class="">
                              <b class="">Vastaanottaja:</b><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>pply
                              Verkko &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:pply@lists.oulu.fi"
                                class="" moz-do-not-send="true">pply@lists.oulu.fi</a>&gt;<br
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                              <b class="">Aihe:</b><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                              [Pply] Meri-Toppilaan lintutorni?</font>
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                                vastaamatta, että miksi ei tehdä
                                torneja. No, koska tätä rahaa käyttäviä
                                viranhaltijoita kiinnostaa nimenomaan se
                                metsien raivaaminen eikä lainkaan mikään
                                tornien tms. tekeminen.</div>
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                                10:n<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" class=""
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">Sähköposti</a>sta</div>
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                                    class="">Lähettäjä:<span
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                                    href="mailto:esaalto@hotmail.com"
                                    class="" moz-do-not-send="true">Esa
                                    Aalto</a><br class="">
                                  <b class="">Lähetetty:<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>lauantai
                                  2. toukokuuta 2020 10.18<br class="">
                                  <b class="">Vastaanottaja:<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a
                                    href="mailto:pply@lists.oulu.fi"
                                    class="" moz-do-not-send="true">pply
                                    Verkko</a><br class="">
                                  <b class="">Aihe:<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re:
                                  [Pply] Meri-Toppilaan lintutorni?</div>
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                                rahasta. Torni maksaa 10-30 000
                                kaupungin teettämänä riippuen siitä,
                                minkälainen tehdään. Viime vuonna
                                tällaisiin tarkoituksiin varattuja
                                rahoja jäi muistaakseni käyttämättä noin
                                50 000 euroa. Se on budjetin momentilta
                                metsä- ja luonnonhoitotyöt, joka on
                                samaa rahaa, millä raivataan lähimetsiä
                                linnuista tyhjiksi. Tämän vuoksi
                                lautakunnalle luvattiin, että
                                Oulunlahden Kiviniemen tornin
                                rakentamista voidaan aikaistaa
                                (2030-luvulta) ja tehdään suunnitelmia
                                valmiiksi, jotta rahat saadaan jatkossa
                                paremmin käytettyä.</div>
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                                Calibri, sans-serif;">Lähetetty Windows
                                10:n<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" class=""
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">Sähköposti</a>sta</div>
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                                    class="">Lähettäjä:<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a
                                    href="mailto:arkkitehti@icloud.com"
                                    class="" moz-do-not-send="true">Jarkko
                                    Mykkänen</a><br class="">
                                  <b class="">Lähetetty:<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>lauantai
                                  2. toukokuuta 2020 9.46<br class="">
                                  <b class="">Vastaanottaja:<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a
                                    href="mailto:esaalto@hotmail.com"
                                    class="" moz-do-not-send="true">Esa
                                    Aalto</a><br class="">
                                  <b class="">Kopio:<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a
                                    href="mailto:pply@lists.oulu.fi"
                                    class="" moz-do-not-send="true">pply</a><br
                                    class="">
                                  <b class="">Aihe:<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re:
                                  [Pply] Meri-Toppilaan lintutorni?</div>
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                                    class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt;">termos,</span></div>
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                                    class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt;">Olisiko
                                    tietoa lintutornin budjetista
                                    rakentaminen ylläpito ja purkaminen
                                    ? Miksi kaupunki on nihkeä ? onko
                                    tässä vain rahasta kyse ? Voiko
                                    yksityinen lahjoittaa
                                    tornihankkeeseen ?</span></div>
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                                <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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                              <p class="x_x_MsoNormal" style="margin:
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                                  <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                    0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Esa
                                    Aalto &lt;<a
                                      href="mailto:esaalto@hotmail.com"
                                      class="" moz-do-not-send="true">esaalto@hotmail.com</a>&gt;
                                    kirjoitti 27.4.2020 kello 10.21:</div>
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                                  <div class="">
                                    <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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                                      font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Moro,</div>
                                    <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                      font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                      Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p>
                                    <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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                                      font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Rantareitin
                                      yleissuunnitelma on hyväksytty
                                      yhdyskuntalautakunnassa 20.8.2019.
                                      Siihen eivät lintu- ja
                                      luontoyhdistykset jättäneet
                                      mielipiteitä, vaikka aihetta olisi
                                      voinut ollakin. Osa reitistä on jo
                                      toteutettu loput etenevät
                                      katusuunnitelmina ja
                                      asemakaavamuutoksina, missä
                                      sellaiseen on tarvetta. Näitä
                                      rakenteita kannattaa vieläkin
                                      esittää siinä vaiheessa, kun
                                      tarkempia suunnitelmia tulee
                                      nähtäville. Sehän ei maksa
                                      kaupungille mitään, että
                                      suunnitelmiin piirretään varaukset
                                      lintutorneille yms, ja toteutus on
                                      sitten joskus, jos rahoitusta ja
                                      tahtoa löytyy.</div>
                                    <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                      Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p>
                                    <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                      0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                                      font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">t.
                                      Esa A.</div>
                                    <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                      Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p>
                                    <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                      Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p>
                                    <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                      Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p>
                                    <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                      0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                                      font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Lähetetty
                                      Windows 10:n<span
                                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" class=""
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">Sähköposti</a>sta</div>
                                    <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                      font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                      Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p>
                                    <div class="" style="border-style:
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                                      225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;">
                                      <div class="" style="margin: 0cm
                                        0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                                        font-family: Calibri,
                                        sans-serif;"><b class="">Lähettäjä:<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a
                                          href="mailto:matti.tynjala@live.fi"
                                          class=""
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">Matti
                                          Tynjälä</a><br class="">
                                        <b class="">Lähetetty:<span
                                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>maanantai
                                        27. huhtikuuta 2020 0.50<br
                                          class="">
                                        <b class="">Vastaanottaja:<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a
                                          href="mailto:aripekka00@hotmail.com"
                                          class=""
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">Ari-Pekka
                                          Auvinen</a>;<span
                                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:pply@lists.oulu.fi" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">'pply@lists.oulu.fi'</a><br
                                          class="">
                                        <b class="">Aihe:<span
                                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re:
                                        [Pply] Meri-Toppilaan
                                        lintutorni?</div>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                      font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                      Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p>
                                    <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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                                      font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                                        class="">Nyt on käynnissä
                                        Pohjoisen rantareitin
                                        suunnittelu (kevyen liikenteen
                                        väylä) Toppilasta aina Kelloon,
                                        missä yhteydessä näitä
                                        rakenteita voisi ehkä esittää
                                        mukaan.</span></div>
                                    <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                        class=""> </span></p>
                                    <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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                                        class="">Linkki<span
                                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="https://www.oukapalvelut.fi/tekninen/Suunnitelmat/Projektikortti.asp?ID=1138"
                                        class="" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                          class="">https://www.oukapalvelut.fi/tekninen/Suunnitelmat/Projektikortti.asp?ID=1138</span></a></div>
                                    <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                        class=""> </span></p>
                                    <div class="">
                                      <div class="" style="border-style:
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                                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm
                                          0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                                          font-family: Calibri,
                                          sans-serif;"><b class="">Lähettäjä:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                            href="mailto:pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi"
                                            class=""
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>&lt;<a
                                            href="mailto:pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi"
                                            class=""
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi</a>&gt;<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Puolesta<span
                                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ari-Pekka
                                          Auvinen<br class="">
                                          <b class="">Lähetetty:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>26. huhtikuutata 2020 23:54<br
                                            class="">
                                          <b class="">Vastaanottaja:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'<a
                                            href="mailto:pply@lists.oulu.fi"
                                            class=""
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">pply@lists.oulu.fi</a>'
                                          &lt;<a
                                            href="mailto:pply@lists.oulu.fi"
                                            class=""
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">pply@lists.oulu.fi</a>&gt;<br
                                            class="">
                                          <b class="">Aihe:</b><span
                                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                                          [Pply] Meri-Toppilaan
                                          lintutorni?</div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                    <div class="">
                                      <div class="" style="margin: 0cm
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                                        sans-serif;"><span class=""
                                          style="font-size: 12pt;">Hei</span></div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">
                                      <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                        Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                                          class="" style="font-size:
                                          12pt;"> </span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">
                                      <div class="" style="margin: 0cm
                                        0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                                        font-family: Calibri,
                                        sans-serif;"><span class=""
                                          style="font-size: 12pt;">En
                                          halua latistaa innostusta
                                          uusien lintutornien
                                          suunnitteluun, mutta näin
                                          PPLY:n puheenjohtajan
                                          näkökulmasta ne ovat usein
                                          ongelmallisia. Uusia torneja
                                          on toivottu myös mm.
                                          Pattijokisuulle ja nyt ihan
                                          vasta Haukiputaan
                                          Halosenlahdelle. Hyviä
                                          paikkojahan nämä olisivat,
                                          mutta kunnollisen lintutornin
                                          rakentaminen on kuitenkin aina
                                          melkoinen ponnistus -- niin
                                          työmäärällisesti kuin
                                          rahallisestikin. Lintutornien
                                          kunnossapitokin on
                                          osoittautunut viime vuosina
                                          osin ongelmalliseksi, mistä
                                          osoituksena mm. Tauvon
                                          Ulkonokan tornin rapistuminen
                                          ja purku, jaa-a, oliko joskus
                                          2000-luvun alussa. Hailuodon
                                          tornienkin osalta on ollut
                                          huolia, joita en kyllä täysin
                                          muista.</span></div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">
                                      <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                        font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                        Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                                          class="" style="font-size:
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                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">
                                      <div class="" style="margin: 0cm
                                        0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                                        font-family: Calibri,
                                        sans-serif;"><span class=""
                                          style="font-size: 12pt;">Iin
                                          Hiastinlahden tornin
                                          rakentaminen joitakin vuosia
                                          sitten taisi kuitenkin sujua
                                          mukavasti? Kyläyhdistys tai
                                          joku oli aktiivinen ja taisi
                                          siellä olla Leader-rahaakin,
                                          jos en väärin muista. Eli jos
                                          jonnekin torni halutaan, niin
                                          pitää varmaankin olla valmis
                                          toimimaan siinä itse
                                          puuhahenkilönä ja etsiä
                                          hankkeelle rahoitus.
                                          Talkooväkeä saa paikalle
                                          vaihtelevasti ja tietysti PPLY
                                          tukee sen, minkä voi. Ihan
                                          yhdistyksen ydintoiminnaksi
                                          minä en tornien rakentamista
                                          kuitenkaan listaisi. </span></div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">
                                      <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                        font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                        Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                                          class="" style="font-size:
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                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">
                                      <div class="" style="margin: 0cm
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                                        font-family: Calibri,
                                        sans-serif;"><span class=""
                                          style="font-size: 12pt;">Tämä
                                          näin yleisellä tasolla.
                                          Meri-Toppila on kuitenkin
                                          Oulun kaupungin maata, kuten
                                          Esa sanoi. Siellä ei yhdistys
                                          ja jokin muu porukka varmaan
                                          edes voisi puuhailla omiaa,
                                          vaan toimeen joko ryhdytään
                                          kaupungin toimesta tai ei
                                          ollenkaan(?) Liittyyhän
                                          torneihin aina melkoisia
                                          vastuukysymyksiäkin...</span></div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">
                                      <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                        font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                        Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                                          class="" style="font-size:
                                          12pt;"> </span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">
                                      <div class="" style="margin: 0cm
                                        0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                                        font-family: Calibri,
                                        sans-serif;"><span class=""
                                          style="font-size: 12pt;">Itse
                                          olen enemmän piilojen
                                          kannalla. Niistä linnut pääsee
                                          näkemään lähempää eikä
                                          rakentaminen ole niin suuri
                                          prosessi.</span></div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">
                                      <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                        font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                        Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                                          class="" style="font-size:
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                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">
                                      <div class="" style="margin: 0cm
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                                        font-family: Calibri,
                                        sans-serif;"><span class=""
                                          style="font-size: 12pt;">Terveisin
                                          itse paikallisen isännän
                                          kanssa piilon Siikajoen
                                          Karjonevalle kyhännyt A-P</span></div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="">
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                                          style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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                                      </div>
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                                        font-family: Calibri,
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                                      <div id="x_x_divRplyFwdMsg"
                                        class="">
                                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm
                                          0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                                          font-family: Calibri,
                                          sans-serif;"><b class="">Lähettäjä:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                            href="mailto:pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi"
                                            class=""
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>&lt;<a
                                            href="mailto:pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi"
                                            class=""
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">pply-bounces@lists.oulu.fi</a>&gt;
                                          käyttäjän Esa Aalto &lt;<a
                                            href="mailto:esaalto@hotmail.com"
                                            class=""
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">esaalto@hotmail.com</a>&gt;
                                          puolesta<br class="">
                                          <b class="">Lähetetty:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>sunnuntai 26. huhtikuuta 2020
                                          13.32<br class="">
                                          <b class="">Vastaanottaja:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'<a
                                            href="mailto:pply@lists.oulu.fi"
                                            class=""
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">pply@lists.oulu.fi</a>'
                                          &lt;<a
                                            href="mailto:pply@lists.oulu.fi"
                                            class=""
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">pply@lists.oulu.fi</a>&gt;<br
                                            class="">
                                          <b class="">Aihe:</b><span
                                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                                          [Pply] Meri-Toppilaan
                                          lintutorni?<span
                                            class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                                            0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                                            font-family: Calibri,
                                            sans-serif;"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div class="">
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div class="" style="margin:
                                            0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                                            11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                            sans-serif;">Moro,</div>
                                          <div class="">
                                            <p class="x_x_MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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                                              sans-serif;"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div class="" style="margin:
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                                            11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                            sans-serif;">Kaupungin
                                            maalla ja kaupungin
                                            ylläpitoonhan se tulisi.
                                            Hieman voi olla ns.
                                            ”pitkässä kuusessa” tornin
                                            saaminen tuohon. Kovasti
                                            olemme yrittäneet ehdottaa
                                            ensisijaisena uutena tornina
                                            Oulunlahden (Oulun
                                            Kiviniemen) uimarantaa,
                                            josta vanha torni purettiin
                                            pois joitakin vuosia sitten.
                                            Kaupunki lupaili sinne uutta
                                            tornia 2030-luvulla, mutta
                                            sitä mahdollisesti saadaan
                                            aikaistettua tälle
                                            vuosikymmenelle… Mutta siis
                                            Oulun kaupunki on todella
                                            nihkeä mitään uusia
                                            retkeilyrakenteita tekemään.
                                            Juuri saatiin valmiiksi
                                            olemassa olevien rakenteiden
                                            hoito- ja käyttösuunnitelma
                                            ja monelle kohteelle
                                            toimenpiteenä siinä oli
                                            purkaminen tai pois
                                            antaminen. Mutta kaupungille
                                            siis vaan ehdottamaan,
                                            vaikkapa
                                            kuntalaisaloitteena. Jos
                                            sais pari-kolme muuta tornia
                                            ensin pystyyn mun mielestäni
                                            vielä tärkeämmille
                                            paikoille, niin sitten
                                            voisin tätäkin tornihanketta
                                            ajaa eteenpäin vaikka
                                            valtuustoaloitteella, jos
                                            siihen asti lisäkausia
                                            valtuutettuna suodaan.
                                            Aikataulutusta ei pysty
                                            tällä nykyisellä meiningillä
                                            lupaamaan.</div>
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                                            sans-serif;">t. Esa A.</div>
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                                            sans-serif;">Lähetetty
                                            Windows 10:n<span
                                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" class=""
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">Sähköposti</a>sta</div>
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                                              sans-serif;"><b class="">Lähettäjä:<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a
                                                href="mailto:Mikko.Oranen@student.oulu.fi"
                                                class=""
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">Mikko
                                                Oranen</a><br class="">
                                              <b class="">Lähetetty:<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>torstai 23. huhtikuuta 2020
                                              18.16<br class="">
                                              <b class="">Vastaanottaja:<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a
                                                href="mailto:pply@lists.oulu.fi"
                                                class=""
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">'pply@lists.oulu.fi'</a><br
                                                class="">
                                              <b class="">Aihe:<span
                                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[Pply]
                                              Meri-Toppilaan lintutorni?</div>
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                                                style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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                                          <div class="" style="margin:
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                                            11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                            sans-serif;">Meri-Toppilan
                                            ulkoilualueen rannassa on
                                            tässä kevään mittaan
                                            useampaan otteeseen
                                            keskusteluissa noussut
                                            esille idea lintutornin
                                            rakentamisesta paikalle.
                                            Paikka on etenkin
                                            arktika-aikaan oikein mukava
                                            muutonseurantaan ja helposti
                                            saavutettavissa, mikä näkyy
                                            alueella lisääntyneenä
                                            retkeilynä. Nykyisellä
                                            staijipaikalla pensaat ja
                                            puut haittaavat hieman
                                            näkyvyyttä joihinkin
                                            ilmansuuntiin ja
                                            Toppilansalmen suulle, mutta
                                            jo matalahkokin torni voisi
                                            auttaa asiaa. Itselläni ei
                                            ole kokemusta tällaisten
                                            asioiden ehdottamisesta
                                            millekkään taholle, joten
                                            ajattelin kysäistä
                                            näkemyksiä siitä, olisiko
                                            idea ihan
                                            toteutuskelpoinen? </div>
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                                            sans-serif;">-Mikko Oranen</div>
                                        </div>
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                                      class="">
                                    Pply mailing list<br class="">
                                    <a href="mailto:Pply@lists.oulu.fi"
                                      class="" moz-do-not-send="true">Pply@lists.oulu.fi</a><br
                                      class="">
                                    <a
                                      href="http://lists.oulu.fi/mailman/listinfo/pply"
                                      class="" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.oulu.fi/mailman/listinfo/pply</a></div>
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                    _______________________________________________<br
                      class="">
                    Pply mailing list<br class="">
                    <a href="mailto:Pply@lists.oulu.fi" class=""
                      moz-do-not-send="true">Pply@lists.oulu.fi</a><br
                      class="">
                    <a href="http://lists.oulu.fi/mailman/listinfo/pply"
                      class="" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.oulu.fi/mailman/listinfo/pply</a></div>
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Pply mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Pply@lists.oulu.fi">Pply@lists.oulu.fi</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.oulu.fi/mailman/listinfo/pply">http://lists.oulu.fi/mailman/listinfo/pply</a>
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